I goofed in the last message of Chapter 9 where I said that this new chapter would be called "Chapter 10 - second chapter after the reunion."  It's actually the third chapter after the reunion.  Click on "0 Comments" (or whatever the number happens to be), in order to see others' comments and to post your own in Chapter 10.  Thanks. Bill.
 


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Bill Ryan
09/27/2010 5:07pm

All you "bumps on a log" and "brazen articles": please post your new messages in this Chapter - Chapter 10.

Thanks.

Bill

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Kathy Matthews Klein
09/30/2010 12:44am

Good Evening All -

First Pam: Thank you for letting us know thru the blog that Carol (Ruther-ford) LoCastro passed away. My deepest sympathy goes out to you at this most tragic time. Please know you, Tommy and the rest of the family are in my heart, thoughts & prayers. May God bless Carol now and always as she watches over you, Tommy and your family from above!

Bill: Thanks for giving Chapter 10 a shot! I hope some STS "blog viewers" jump off their logs and chime in with a paragraph or a few sentences, sharing memories of STS, Woodside or the kids we grew up (Life was so very much less complicated then). I never participated in a blog & was sure I never would. Yet I found out there's something special about the connection we still have, even if it is via e-mail.

Over the years I've thought back of the kids we grew up with in the city & the precious friendships we made along the way that helped us survive the trials & tribulations of our Catholic School Education.

Personally I have no regrets about our 8 years in STS (in spite of having to PRINT chapters from our History Book (per Sister Reginald/5th grade) because someone spoke in class & did not own up to it. Those who went to public school can't understand how close we STS kids were...sort of like an extended family: we started out together in 1st & 8 yrs later graduated with the same "kids."

I often wondered where many of my STS friends were & where life had taken them. Thanks Bill, Cathy, Diane et al for reaching out & finding us, and then inviting us to pick up for one night where we left off 50 yrs ago. Was a night to remember filled with friends we'll never forget.

Let's enjoy our own lives but try to keep in touch so we don't lose what we've regained! Those of you in the NE area, enjoy the beauty of the change in seasons now 'cause before long we'll be freezing cold & wet from snow/ice.
Later...Kathy Matthews Klein

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Frank Dann
09/30/2010 1:51pm

One sort of blessing that I received from Sr. Henrietta was her insistence that my "cursive" handwriting be at least readable. She was right---it was junk. There was nowhere to go but up, and it improved (or else!)

Now, approaching 50 years later, my handwriting remains quite legible---so much so that my patients question if I'm really a physician!

I remember those desk inkwells we use to stuff all sorts of junk into. (Sometimes they were just empty holes in the desk, if I remember correctly.)

Was ink ever used in them? Anyway, my right index finger remains "indelibly" stained from those consistently-leaky and no longer used fountain pens. :)

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Erma
10/02/2010 7:45pm

Well, I guess I've been bad, reading but not posting - not much to say I guess. I think I used it all up in STS and got punished enough now I try to be silent sometimes. Anyway, Frank, not sure if it's my fading mind cells but I could swear we did use those inkwells. For some reason I remember buying Waterman blue-black ink in a small bottle. I actually don't recall putting the ink in the inkwell, or a pen, for that matter.

I, too, am sorry to hear about Carol Rutherford and will keep her in my prayers. Well, I guess that does say something for those nuns, many of us still seem to pray. A very good sign, I'd think.

As for me, I have no idea where the summer went and now Kathy's kindly reminded us that Christmas is less than 100 days away. Well, as scarry as it is, I'm nearly done with my shopping (I do it all year long when I see stuff I need) which is a good thing because I was hoping to get Christmas shopping with Jean Ryan and have been struggling trying to find time to contact anyone - no less shop.

My daugher, her husband, my grandchildren and I (or is it me?) are heading to St. John, Virgin Islands for ten days and then I'll head to their home to see the girls be "cats" for Haloween. Then back to work and before we know it, it'll be Thanksgiving. Looks like most of us on this blog have a log to be thankful for - loved ones, jobs, careers, family and our roots in Woodside/Sunnyside. It is/was a great place to be from and the fact that we can all reconnect after 50 years and sort of pick up where we left off is quite a tribute to us all.

Well, before some nun breaks into the blog and threatens to hit my hands with a metal ruler for "talking too much" I'll sign off and ... Bill and Jean, I'll call VERY SOON!!!

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Bill Ryan
10/02/2010 9:12pm

I remember when we were in about 3rd grade, the nun actually did go up and down the aisles of the room, filling the inkwells. She had this big bottle (about a quart?) of ink. It had a little pour-spout on it. I remember there was a little slide cover on the top of the inkwell itself. I can also remember that bottles of one brand of ink (I think it was "Scripto" ink) had a kind of little "trough" up near the mouth of the bottle, off to one side, for filling your fountain pen, so you wouldn't have to dip it all the way down to the bottom of the bottle, especially if it was a full (or almost full) bottle. I also remember when we were in about 4th grade, a salesman came into the classrooms and demonstrated ball point pens to us. I remember being skeptical, thinking, "those things won't work." I think for the rest of that year, we were FORBIDDEN to buy (or, at least, use) ball points pen. However, some time later on, ball point pens were permitted. Hmmm! Do you suppose that was the very beginning of the end of STS? LOL Seriously, I think we were eventually allowed to use ball points by the time we got to 7th and 8th grade. The only thing that's making me doubt that is that I can remember how good old George Lis (RIP) came into school (during 8th gr.) on more than one occasion with one of those ink cartridges that snapped into a ball point pen. George would take the spent plastic cartridge home, melt it over the gas flame on the stove, until the plastic resembled (how can I say this delicately? Oh, hell, we're all from Woodside) a streamer of snot. He'd come into school and when Ann Eileen wasn't looking, he'd shove the "fake snot" up his nostril, turn around when she wasn't looking and make us laugh - yet, of course, we didn't dare get caught laughing by Ann Eileen. So, maybe we didn't use ball points in 8th grade. I think by the nuns barring the use of ball points, that allowed George Lis to develop his special "product", which provided much amusement to our simple juvenile minds. Hey, in that place, you took laughs wherever you could get them!
Frank, you were saying about Sr. Henrietta insisting that you improve your cursive writing. I'm sure some of you saw on TV a few weeks ago that some absurd percentage of high school kids nowadays can't even write in cursive! They can only print. I guess "Penmanship" is no longer a category on report cards. I don't think my handwriting is all that good, but it's better than that of any of my 3 kids. I'm not sure if my oldest son, Dave, even uses the Roman alphabet when he writes. It almost looks like Arabic script half the time. I'm sure had he gone to Catholic school, it'd be way more legible.
Pass out!

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Cathy M
10/03/2010 10:13am

Erma, Bill & Frank:

My class did use the inkwells. In fact, I remember having to use a nib pen when we were learning cursive writing. It was a long tapered end into which you would insert the "nib", the dip into the inkwell. We had blotters as well because sometimes we would "dip" too much. I remember my blotter to be green. Ten we went to a fountain pen that had the little balloon inside that would fill up with ink. Mine was like Frank's a waterman. Next came the cartridge pens. I know I was very late in using a ballpoint, I think it was high school. In fact, I have a Mont Blanc fountain pen that I still use when writing personal notes and letters which is now greatly reduced due to the laziness of the internet. Penmenship was actually a subject for us. All those pages of L loops and O's. My son who is 31 had cursive writing by a teacher who was incapable of cursive writing by her own addmission. He attributes his proper cursive writing to the Maris Brothers from Malloy. I do think he is one of the few of his age who writes in the cursive. The method we were taiught was Palmer. My husband who is 15 years older and had public school education was taught the same as we were. In fact, it's hard to tell his handwriting from mine. I gues it's now part of history - a lost art - Cursive writing. We are now the elder generation!

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Bill Ryan
10/03/2010 12:52pm

Cathy,
If memory serves me correctly, didn't we used to buy big blotters (they were green) that were big enough to cover the whole top of our desk? I think we, at least at times, used to scotch tape the big "desk blotter" to the edges of the desk? And didn't they also sell desk blotter holders, that you'd tuck the left and right sides of the blotter into? I'm sure I'm not just making this up. It seems we did that more down around 3rd and 4th grades. I know we didn't do it in 5th and 6th, because we were down in the basement. Were those desks down there movable? I think they were. I don't think they were bolted to the floor like the older "inkwell" desks upstairs. I know those desks didn't accommodate desk blotters too well. I'm not sure, but when we went back up to the upper floors for 7th and 8th, I don't think we used blotters too much in the upper grades (7th and 8th).

I don't remember using pencils too much, either, in any of the grades above around 2nd grade. Maybe we did. I can't remember.

I remember a lot of kids (even the boys) used to have "pencil cases" where you would carry several pencils, a pen or two, and of course the pink eraser (for pencil), the tan-colored "gum eraser" (again, for pencil), and often the gray colored eraser (for ink). I think they even made an eraser that was gray on one side and pink on the other. There would often be a compass and a protractor thrown into the pencil case as well.
I remember making those rows of loops of O's in Sr. Beatrice's class in 4th grade. I can remember that quite clearly. I thought when we first started doing it, it was dumb. But, after a while, I could see how it really helped my handwriting.

And how 'bout dem Crayolas? I think one time, I actually had a box of 16 Crayolas. (Usually, I just had the cheapie 8-pack.) I thought having a 16 pack was cool until I looked over and saw that there was some girl with a box of 48 crayons. Somehow, I've survived into adulthood, fairly intact mentally and physically, even though I never owned a 48'er. LOL
Bill

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Cathy M
10/03/2010 3:19pm

I have to apologize for my typing. Unfortunately, my mind works faster than my fingers and with age I seem to have a number of oop's! Yes Bill, we did have those large green blotters and they could be "tucked" in. We would cut them into squares as well to "blot" our writing. I agree - 5th grade was when we went to cartridge pens. I remember using pencils especially for arithmetic - now an used, old-fashioned word! I do remember all the sets of erasers including the half and half. I had used the ink eraser so much, there was a hole in my paper. I can remember as well using Clorex to remove the ink. I remember those 48 box of crayons but do you remember the pencils. They were all different colors like the caryons except they were soft colored pencils. My pencil case had a ruler for the top with a pencil sharpner attached. I am still the only one at work who still uses a number 2 pencil! I like my points sharp and the mechanical pencils drive me nuts. Old habits are hard to break!

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Erma
10/03/2010 6:40pm

Guess, I was the odd ball. My pencil case also had a "protractor" and a pink eraser. I never got to have one of those beige colored ones but I do remember that my friends who had them said that when they used the erasors, they sort of crumbled. My pink pearl never did that.

Now that Thanksgiving is approaching, does anyone remember "Anything for Thanksgiving"? I'm pretty sure most of us on 44th Street did. Mostly we'd get pennies and nickles, but there was the occasional dime. I don't think that lasted too long and then we just went out for Haloween.

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Bill Ryan
10/03/2010 8:17pm

Jeez, Erma, talk about a memory from eons ago - "Anything for Thanksgiving". I think one year, when I was about 7 or 8, the kids on the block (48th St.) were talking about doing "Anything For Thanksgiving". I have a very faint memory of ringing some doorbells on Thanksgiving Day, while people were enjoying their big turkey feast, and asking "Anything For Thanksgiving?" People generally looked annoyed at the intrusion - and I can't say I blame them. I don't think my mother knew I was doing that. When I came home (after about 20 minutes of begging), I told her and she wasn't too happy that I had done. But, yes, Erma, that certainly brings back a very distant memory.

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Charlie D
10/03/2010 8:59pm

I recall the ink wells! Grades 1 and 2, pencil only. Third grade, I think we had to produce a masterpiece with the pen that we dipped in the ink well and then was given permission to use a fountain pen. No ball points till High school. Also remember "Anything for Thanksgiving" but only did it once or twice on my Grandma's block (50th Ave & 39th Pl). Same block that Robbie O'Brien lived. Ah, the gray ink eraser which usually-when rubbing hard-would go right thru thru paper. Glad to see some activity here on the blog. My niece just got married to Bobby Nicholson whose uncle(Bill) was at our 1960 reunion. Small world. Be well everyone.

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Pam LoCastro McPhail
10/04/2010 9:49am

Does anyone remember that we used to clean our desks at the end of a school year? We had to bring in rags and newspaper and string. We'd clean our desks and then cover them with newspaper and tie them up for the summer. Can you imagine that now!
I was in St. Teresa's this past week. Carol's mass was there. I hadn't been into St. Teresa's for about 40 years. I remember the church being so much bigger. The feel and smell of the church was still there. When we knelt, I had waves of de ja vous remembering all the hours we spent on our knees with out backs straight and no resting your hinny on the pew. The organist and singer were right there in front of you not up in the choir loft. The mural in the front of the church was different.

OK how sbout ink irraticator???? (Spelling)
You know the stuff that had bleach in it. It was used to erase what you wrote in ink. It stained your uniform so you walked around with white dots all over.

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Frank Dann
10/04/2010 3:44pm

Eradicator!! I needed it over and over, and sometimes in the same place. That's when it ate a hole in the paper. :(

Does anybody remember the "Mentals" we had in our arithmatic books?

I had a blotter: it was all marked up with doodles and grafitti by June: I never brought repacements.

Do any of the "boys" remember those iron-on patches for the blue uniform slacks? I skinned my knee so many times that my pants were ultimately the patches helded together by remnants of the original material. :)

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Bill Ryan
10/04/2010 4:08pm

Cathy Maher sent me an article on "Anything For Thanksgiving". If, after you read the main article, you go down and read the different comments people made, you'll see that at least one person said that "AFT" was really a block-by-block phenomenon. I agree. It was not big on my original block (4700 block of 48th St.) I saw no signs of it at all when we moved down to the 5000 block of 42nd St. Yet, apparently, it was definitely a custom on Erma's old block (4700 block of 44th St.). Here's the link to the article:

http://www.greenpt.com/anytngftkg.htm

(This link is not "hot". You'll have to copy and paste it into your browser address window.)

Pam, I have no recollection of "clean up duty" at the end of the year. I'm sure it happened, but my memory of the days back in STS is extremely selective. Some things I can see down to the finest detail, yet other things are completely lost to history in my mind. For example, I can see the top of the inkwells very clearly, with its little sliding cover shaped like a gourd, yet I have no memory whatsoever of what we did the last day or two of each school year. I was thinking that maybe the nuns asked the girls to do the "clean up", assuming that the boys would just mess it up (which they probably would.)
Speaking of the end of the year, I have another question, that would concern mainly the boys. Were we allowed to come to school during the last week or so of June without our uniform jacket, if the weather was very hot? I definitely remember in high school (where we had to wear a sports jacket - not a uniform, but dress pants and a sports jacket) that every year, we didn't have to start wearing the sport jacket until Sept. 15 and then I think in June, the day was June 15. (It might have even been as early as May 15.) I can't remember if we had to wear our jackets in STS or not. Looking back on it now, it's little wonder that some of those nuns were the way they were. Imagine being all wrapped up like a mummy on a 90 degree day, in a classroom with no fans, etc. It's surprising they didn't pass out (no, not the way Sr. John Marie meant it - LOL). I remember many a hot day in Sept and in June, coming home from school and drinking about 3 big glasses of water, I was so thirsty. They hardly ever would let us get drinks from the fountain at the end of the hall, and. anyway, that water was as warm as "body fluid". (I'm trying to be nice, even though I am from Woodside! LOL). On the other side of the coin, I also remember freezing my tuckus off downstairs in the basement, especially in 5th grade, the year I had Ann Eileen. She was constantly hot and had to have the windows open, no matter how cold out it was. I had blocked ears that whole winter. I remember one day, I handed in a paper to her, and she was going to give me a hard time about it since the ink had bled across the paper. But, as quick as a wink, I said to her, "Well, sister, the snow was blowing in the window and it landed on my paper." I'm surprised she didn't hold me responsible for keeping the snow off my papers. (I sat in the last seat in the row closest to the window.) After 5th grade, I had more empathy for Abraham Lincoln and his three-sided school house. LOL

Pass out!


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Erma
10/06/2010 7:19pm

OMG (the nuns will turn over in their graves) I do remember cleaing our desks at the end of the school year. I also remember, thanks to Frank, ink irridicator (my spelling is still terrible, but I just choose not to use words I can't spell now). I remember well that bleachy smell and how it burned holes in my paper. I guess I must have used too much - or had too many errors. Boy, those were the days.

Bill, I only remember doing AFT one or two years. My parents finally had a fit and said if I didn't stop they'd be too embarrased to show themselves on the block and we'd have to move. Boy, people had pride in themselves way back then. I remember my dad had been laid off for a couple of months and someone suggested to my mom that my parents apply for food stamps - or welfare - or something like that and I remember my mother saying she would never go on welfare and they'd figure something out. I guess my dad got his job back right after that but these days people don't think anything of asking for a handout - now our parents wouldn't have done that. Of course, considering, I went out for Thanksgiving - I guess that doesn't hold true for me so if anyone wants to send money - let me know and I'll send you my address (just kidding, of course).

I hope everyone "out there" is doing well and hasn't bought their Haloween candy yet (like I did). I've already put a significant dent in it. I'm going to have to hide it from myself - but with my memory the way it seems to be - that may not be hard. The only downside is that I'll be buying more candy on October 30.

Keep posting, it's fun to come home and read the comments. Pam, I can't believe you remembered cleaning the desks. That's just great - I bet between us we could conjure up our entire collective childhood.

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Bill Ryan
10/10/2010 1:42pm

OK, here's one for all you bumps: what did we do in school (STS) for Halloween, especially in the lower grades. I know they certainly did not have Halloween parades, where kids come in dressed up in their costumes and parade around the school. I think maybe we drew some Halloween pictures (like pumpkins and bats, etc.), but that's about it. Figured I'd ask this question about life in STS, considering the season.
And, yes, Frank, I do remember those pant patches. I don't know why, but my mother didn't seem to want to use them. If I did put a hole in the knee of my pants, I think I got scolded, but then my mother would buy me a new pair of pants, with a warning that I better not put any more holes in them. I really have very little recollection of "issues of dressing" from STS. The one thing I do remember (I can still smell it, "in my brain", so to speak) is that goop I used to put in my hair: Polymol. It was green and slimy. I think most of us boys used either that or Vitalis or some other such concoction.
Anyway, let me know what your recollections of Halloween-time at STS are.
Thanks.

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j greene
05/30/2013 10:57pm

im over 60 years old and your the only guy that remembers polymol

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Frank Dann
10/10/2010 11:20pm

Concerning hair, I used "O'Dells." It was made from a thick, clear gel and would stay in one's hair for 3-4 days.

My hair was brittle because of it-- and I remember that it seemed the hair could almost snap or break off.

Those over the top pomadours preceded the "DA"'s--- which STS told us only gang members wore.

Concerning Halloween, I recall that we had a large, hallowed out pumpkin on the front desk with Sr. Ann Eileen (5th Grade); and with a candle inside it, it created a "carbon pumpkin" smell I still recall.

Sr. Catherine Joseph told us that All Saints' Day was by far the more important of the 2 days---and I believed her because we had that day off. (Holy Day of Obligation.)

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Kathy Matthews Klein
10/15/2010 10:52pm

Earlier this week I went to visit a good friend after work. After we finished dinner, he told me he had something extra special for us to share for dessert.

Since he's an extremely healthy eater I did not know what to expect. I was so Surprised when he came back with a bar of Bonnamo's Turkish Taffy. He slammed it on the kitchen counter like we did 50 years ago & we enjoyed every little piece. I do not know when Bonammo's resurrected, but know it was NOT made for quite a number of years. If I was really lucky once in a great while, I'd get to walk up to Bennett's Candy store on the corner of 44th St & 48 Ave if I had a few cents to buy a "treat". Bonammo's (Chocolate or Strawberry) Taffy were the best! No wonder it was such a hit back then, It remember it seemd to last forever, or at least 1/2 way through a movie. Of course at our age now, probably wouldn't be the best thing for our teeth!

Does anyone remember the clickers that the nuns used in STS? As Pam said we HAD to kneel up straight & tall. I do remember once trying to rest my butt back on the pew/ bench. Immediately one of the nuns was clicking away to make this kid return to the proper position stat. Don't remember trying that again.

Cleaning our desk the end of the year - yeah we did & had to it well but then, what did we have the custodian for? Guess we were trying to make his life a bit easier.

Soon the clock will "fall back" an hour & it'll be dark by 5 pm, the trees will be bare (except the pine trees) and we'll have to put on coats before venturing outside.

Supposed to be decent this weekend so enjoy the fall foliage outside before it disappears! Take care & keep the faith! Kathy

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Bob Davis
10/21/2010 4:14pm

To all the Bumps on the Log,

I have inadvertently discovered a website that had referenced the circus animals on 50th street between Queens Blvd and 47th Ave that was discussed in several previous blogs ago. Although it states the existence until the 1930's, I wonder if the date is correct as I do remember the animals in the late 1950's.

The following is the excerpt about the animals:

"One Sunnyside 'farm' that lingered on a little longer was the Ruhe Wild Animal Farm. This was actually a holding facility for exotic animals brought into the country. It was located near what today is 50th Street on the south side of Queens Boulevard. The animals would be checked out and certified by a veterinarian here before being transported to their new homes. From the 1910's through the 1930's, a Sunnysider might have found him or herself with a monkey or a cheetah as a neighbor..."

If anyone is interested, the website address is:

http://www.forgotten-ny.com/NEIGHBORHOODS/sunnyside/sunnyside.html

It's a great read and there are many of the other neighborhoods also listed.

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Bill Ryan
10/21/2010 11:19pm

Hey, Bob,
I definitely remember seeing animals in that holding area. It was between 50th and 51st Streets, but about a half a block in from Queens Blvd. I'm pretty sure there was a gas station right out close to QB, and that this animal holding area was in behind the gas station. You really couldn't see it all that well from the QB sidewalk. You could only get glimpses of it from either side of the gas station (especially along the left side). I remember seeing the head of a giraffe sticking up above the fence there one time, and seeing an elephant back there, too. Seeing such exotic wildlife was for us "city kids" a bit of a switch from the usual concrete, brick and asphalt world we lived in. At any rate, despite what that article says, I know beyond the shadow of a doubt that that animal holding facility was still in use up until at least 1954. Do any of you bumps remember the old Sunnyside Pool, which was almost directly across QB from the animal facility? I remember going there just one time. I know I was quite young, probably before I even started school. I could be way off on this, but in my mind, I'm seeing a kind of turnstile gate that you had to go through in order to get into the swimming area. It was a "floor-to-ceiling" type of turnstile, not the typical turnstile you'd find on the subways, with just one bar that blocks your forward movement near your waist. The Sunnyside Pool closed no later than 1952.
Finally, just thought I'd let you brazen articles know that we're still getting a decent number of hits on this blog. One day this week, we got about 120 hits in one day. That's pretty good.
Oops, before I forget: if anyone has some good memories of "Halloween in Woodside during the 50s and 60s", please post.

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Bill Ryan
11/04/2010 12:01pm

Sad news to report: Regina Powers, wife of Tim Powers (STS59) passed away this week. Email me (billnjeanryan@gmail.com) if you need info about the funeral mass or the wake. Tim was the main organizer for the STS59 reunion. He and Regina also attended our reunion in April. As some of you know, Regina had been battling cancer for a long time.

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Frank Peters
11/05/2010 10:59am

Bill I read the death notices this morning and was sorry to see that Timmy's wife Regina passed away. Do you have a home address for Tim so I can send a card. I know the fight she put up because everyday we battle and hope when we go to the doctors that they find nothing. So everyone live life to the fullest each and everyday.

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Carole Frank Comeau STS 59
11/06/2010 6:16pm

Hi Everyone, I was just in the process of writing a card to Tim and it prompted me to go to the '59 and '60 websites, so here is the address:
Tim Powers
47 Hillview Avenue
Port Washington, NY 11050

We are grateful for each healthy day.

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Pam McPhail
11/09/2010 2:49pm

Thanks Kathy, I do remember the clickers. Boy, one click and you'd instantly sit up. I wonder if that would work on the kids today, Ha Ha.

I remember my first Halloween in Woodside. We moved there when I was 9. I was allowed out at night for the first time. We were around the corner from my house at a little triangular park. That would be 45 & 46 St. and the LIE. I was so excited about being out in the dark with my brother. Everyone had sacks full of chalk or flour and we were running around hitting each other with sacks, screaming and yelling. I thought it was the best ever. Then..... out from behind a park car came the biggest monster I'd even seen(the only one I had ever seen.) I ran screaming and frightened for my life. It was like a movie only real. It was only an older kid dressed up but for a scared little girl it was real. I immediately wanted to go home but my brother talked me out of it. He made the kid show his face to me to prove that there aren't any monsters. I stayed out but to this day I cannot watch scary movies. We went trick n treating but I don't remember so much candy being given out. I remember getting pennies and some apples.
I live in rural PA now and we don't get kids coming to the house. Houses are too far apart. I miss seeing all the kids dressed up.

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Kathy Matthews Klein
11/11/2010 5:47pm

Hope anyone that has Veteran's Day off is putting it to good use. Was warmer today & not as windy...Amen.

I did not know Tim Powers or his wife but of course he & his family are in my prayers. Sorry to learn we lost another STS Grad.

Nothing new here just didn't want the Blog Meister to think I was one of the non-writing Blog Readers. But Bill I do read sometimes even when I don't have time to write.

Life's not too exciting but what about the rest of you... Don't the bumps on the log have anything fun to report?

Anyone wear a costume on Halloween or go Trick or Treating? Turkey Day will soon be upon us. Are the majority of you at home for Thanksgiving or travelling? Guess I'm one of the lucky ones - my 3 kids are in NY within 2-3 hours driving WITHOUT traffic HA HA

Take care "kids", stay safe & warm cause Winter is on its Way! Later...KK

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Frank Dann
11/12/2010 12:03am

Hi "old" friends~~~

This loss reminds me again to live life every day. I frequently let days pass almost like there are an idefinite number of them in the bank. I need to savor each one.

Shame on me, given all my uncountable blessings...

And thank God for good health.

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Pam LoCastro McPhail
11/19/2010 3:36pm

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

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Bill Ryan
11/29/2010 3:53pm

My apologies to everyone! Today a member of the class emailed me (at my gmail address) and asked me if the blog was still in existence. That tipped me off right away that something screwy was going on with the weebly site.

Last summer, I started getting email messages from some (unknown) guy in China who has some kind of a connection with Nike footwear. His messages are completely innocuous - they sound like the stuff you see on fortune cookie messages, but a bit longer - say, about 2 or 3 sentences. Bottom line: I didn't want any messages from this Chinese guy appearing on the blog. They had no business being on there. So, around August, I discovered that I can filter the various messages that people want to post on this blog. Ordinarily, I wouldn't have bothered with filtering messages, except I was afraid that maybe this Chinese guy was trying to load a virus onto the blog.
So, from around August to early November, every time somebody posted a message, I'd get an email from weebly.com, telling me that there was a message awaiting approval. Now, for whatever reason, weebly stopped sending me these "notification of incoming blog post" emails around early November. So, for the past few weeks, I figured people had lost interest in the blog, since, on my end, my way of knowing whether or not there was a new posting wasn't showing up on my gmail. Today, when somebody asked me if the blog was still alive, that immediately tipped me off that something was amiss. So, there are about 4 new messages that are new. I guess going forward, I'll have to go into the part of the weebly site where I manage the blog. Confused? That's all right. You probably should be. Rest assured that I'll check the blog "the old-fashioned" way from now on, just to be sure that I don't miss any new postings. I'm sure with Christmas coming up, some of you will want to share some memories of Christmas in Woodside and at STS.

Sorry about this mix-up. (Damn Weebly! LOL)

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Skip Sawyer
11/30/2010 2:58pm

Ok Bill it is working.
The thought was a Happy Thanksgiving

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Bill Ryan
11/30/2010 3:58pm

OK, Skip. Thanks. Unfortunately, I didn't get an email message from weebly, telling me that your message ("OK Bill it is working") was waiting to be posted. This doesn't affect anyone posting blogs. It simply means that I have to go into the administrator part of the site now to see if any new messages have come in. Up until recently, I knew there was a new message because I'd get an email from weebly telling me so. No big deal. If this is the worst problem in my life, I'm sitting pretty.
The only thing people who've sent in a blog message might notice is that it may not get posted right away. But, I'll keep checking, at least once a day.
On another note (and, folks, don't be afraid to chime in here with some of your own "Christmas-in-Woodside" memories), I always had a "hate-love relationship" with this time of year (very late Nov to about mid-Dec) when I was a kid. The Christmas lights would be strung up over Greenpoint Ave; the stores would be decorated with Christmas lights and decorations, and people would have started putting Christmas lights in their windows. Yet, Christmas seemed like it would never come. Am I the only bump on a log who ever felt this way?

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Charlie D.
11/30/2010 9:15pm

Hi Bill & everyone, I think that I thought I had posted a Happy Thanksgiving message on the blog & was awaiting your administrative OK. But I guess it got lost in cyber space or wherever lost internet stuff goes. At any rate, had a great Turkey Day with family in Greensboro, NC. Heaing back to L.I. on Sunday. Hope all is well by everyone. Not bothered by Christmas long ago, Bill, but hate how early they start decorating lately.

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Bill Ryan
12/05/2010 11:34pm

Just thought I'd pass this on to all you bumps: for the month of November, the day with the smallest number of hits on this site was Sat., Nov 20, with 17 hits. The highest number of hits came in on Tues., Nov 30, with 55 hits. These are "single visit" hits, meaning that if, for example, someone checks the blog for new postings twice on a given day, that person will be counted only one time (thus "single visit"). All that those "hit numbers" tell me is that so many people visited the site on a given day. I can't tell which part of the STS60 website the "visitors" have gone into.
I'm a little surprised that nobody has sent in a STS (or Woodside) Christmas memory. I have one, but I'll wait till someone else posts their memory first. I don't want to seem like I'm "hogging" the blog (and that's not hard to do, seeing as how few people post anything on here any more.)

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Cathy Maher
12/07/2010 7:55am

Christmas memory of STS.....blanking on them so I'll need help. Only two come to mind, Mary Louise Reiner playing Mary in the Nativity scene (more than once, she was always so tiny)and a box in class wrapped in "brick" paper. I don't remeber if this was for Christmasd cards or gifts! So help "jog" this old lady's memory! I know there was more than that!!!

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Nicolina Chiaro Saporito
12/07/2010 1:14pm

Hi, Everyone,
I just spoke to Marilyn Kurek Gallo. I came across an old directory from Holy Cross Academy with her info.
MARILYNNMGALLO@aol.com
I mentioned our reunion and we were both sad that she didn't go. Maybe someday many of us can meet again! Sounds like fun! Take care, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! Nicki Chiaro Saporito

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Bill Ryan
12/08/2010 11:18am

Thanks, Nicki, for putting Marilynn Kurek in touch with the class of STS60. She emailed me and asked that I send her the class email list, which I will do later today. When I was doing my search, the only thing I could find on her was a Marilynn Kurek Gallo who lives up near Albany. When I called that woman, I knew right away it wasn't our Marilynn. She sounded like she was 90 years old, at least. She said she had no connection with NYC at all. I think in the case of our Marilynn, it was a situation where I would have needed to know her husband's first and last name - which I didn't. Anyway, I remember when we were in STS, in one of the grades, we had a "motto" of the month. We used to have to write a composition illustrating an example of the motto. I remember one of them was "Better late than never, but better never late." That certainly applies in Marilynn's case.

Now, Cathy, about Christmas at STS. I remember in 2nd grade, Miss Kenny had this big cardboard box up near her desk, covered in brick paper. It was the "grab bag". Each kid was to bring in a wrapped present and then when all the presents were in the box, each kid would then blindly pick out a present. Besides bringing in a gift for the grab bag, most kids also brought in a present for Miss Kenny, too. I would have to say that of any teacher I had at STS, including Ann Eileen, none of them could make me feel lower than pond scum than Miss Kenny. Any time she spoke to me, which was rare, it was with such disdain. (She had had one of my older brothers who was a bit of a handful when she had him some 6 years earlier. In typical STS fashion, I was a "marked man" because of my older brother. I was one of those "Ryans".) Anyway, I was delighted that last day of school before Cmas because she actually allowed me to be one of a group of about six boys who were chosen to carry all her Cmas gifts up to her apt in the Mets, up on 50th Avenue, between 46th and 47th Sts. Now did this mean I really wasn't pond scum after all? She actually picked ME!!! So, being all enthusiastic and wanting to prove to her that I was more than just a "brazen article" or pond scum, I stupidly volunteered to carry about 1/2 of all the presents she had received. The other 5 boys were each carrying about 3 boxes, "at their leisure", so to speak. I had about 20 boxes, stretching in a column from my hands, all the way up to under my chin. I had them in a "vise" - between my hands and my chin. Well, I made it a little more than 1/2 way down the stairs that lead from the first floor hallway down to the door that leads out onto 44th St., at the church (50th Ave.) end of the bldg. All of a sudden, whoosh! All the gifts that I was carrying went flying out of my hands and ended up all over the steps. There must have been a good 5 pounds of that hard, cheap rock (ribbon?)candy that was common around Cmas time back then. There was stationery, handkerchiefs, scarves, pens, God knows what, strewn all over the steps. Anyway, Jackie Alcott (one of the chosen few) said to me, "I'm going back and tell Miss Kenny." Now, as an adult, I realize that was the right thing to do. It was an accident. But, being a piece of pond scum in 2nd grade, I was petrified of what would happen if Jackie told her. So, I begged him not to tell her, but he insisted. So, I used a word that was big in our (well, at least, my) vocabulary back then, a word of which most of us were unaware of the sexual connotation: I called Jackie a faggot. (If you tattled on someone, or if you chickened out of doing something, you were a "faggot". It didn't yet have the sexual meaning that would come into play in later years.) So, Jackie says, "I'm going to tell her you called me the F word. Oh, no. Even at the tender age of 7, I was aware of the other F word - nowadays called the F-bomb. What a fine predicament I was in! Now she's going to think I called Jackie a F*CK, when I really had only called him a FAGGOT. How was I ever going to explain that? Not only did I spill her Cmas gifts, I also was guilty of something akin to blasphemy. Jackie went back and told her about the spill and the F word. He came back a few minutes later and said, "She said you should just leave everything there on the steps and just go home." Cripes Almighty, she really was right. I am pond scum!!! I spent most of that Cmas vacation worrying about what fate awaited me when I returned to school after vacation. That first day back to school, Miss Kenny never mentioned anything about dropped presents or F words or whatever. I guess there was a lesson to be learned there: don't waste your time worrying about things that probably aren't going to happen. So, there, that's one of my more vivid STS recollections.
I'm going to be sending out a revised STS60 Email Directory with Marilynn Kurek's email address included. I know Nicki put it in the previous posting, but this way, people

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Bill Ryan
12/08/2010 11:27am

Wow, I know the previous posting was a long one, - so long, in fact, that this is the first time it ever cut me off. There must be a limit to the number of characters that you can put in any given message. As I was saying re: the email list. I know Nicki put Marilynn's email address in a previous posting, but this way, if I send out a whole new list to everyone, people won't have to bother messing around with trying to squeeze Marilynn's email address in the right place alphabetically. Plus, I'm going to ask people to update their email addresses.

OK, I better wrap this up before weebly kicks me off completely.

Pass out!

Bill

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Erma
12/08/2010 9:38pm

Hi, guys, I've been traveling and almost got snowed into Chicago last week. But I'm back now and leaving for vacation tomorrow - I'm going to Disney with my daughter and her family. I'm back on Dec. 19 just in time to work Dec 20, 21 and 22 and then off for the Christmas holiday. I did want to get in my Christmas memory - as sad as it is. I remember going to midnight mass on Christmas eve and during Father Morrow's sermon he said - and this is a quote - "You can make your Christmas donation by cash, check or money order." I remember thinking to myself and probably verbalizing to the person next to me - I wonder if he takes credit cards (those were the days when credit cards were bleeding edge). I was so disenchanted, I just wanted to get up and leave mass but back then we would NEVER do that!

Let me take this opportunity to wish you all a Wonderful, Blessed and Happy Christmas!

KEEP ON BLOGGING, Guys!

PS I'm so glad Marilyn Kurek has been found. I knew she wasn't far and I'd seen her just a few years earlier. Welcome back Marilyn!!!

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Frank Peters
12/09/2010 11:30am

Erma I was also in Chicago last week on oor return from Ca., but did not have to get off the plane. We had to de-ice and then flew into Islip Airport. Great trip to see our newest Grandson. Hope all is well with EVERYONE

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Maureen Murphy Carlson
12/15/2010 2:27am

Welcome back to the STS60 fold, Marilyn!

You know, Cathy, I can't come up with one STS 60 memory. I don't even remember Mary Louise
Reiner as Mary in the Nativity Scene. What I do remember is making Spiritual Bouquets for every occasion, so I'm sure we must have made them at Christmas as gifts for our parents. I do have a vague recollection of that box covered in brick paper....was it for Christmas cards or presents??

As I write this it is -15 degrees with a wind chill of around -35 degrees. We have about two feet of snow on the Bethel, Alaska, tundra!
It's a clear cold night, and the stars and planets are shining brightly in the northern sky. Might be a good night to see some Northern Lights.

Let me take this opportunity to wish you all the Peace. Love, and Joy of this wonderful Christmas Season. May 2011 be a healthy and happy year for all of us.

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Pam LoCastro McPhail
12/21/2010 9:49pm

Northern Lights, what a beautiful sight!
I didn't get to see them when we went to Alaska but I will return someday.

Christmas memories seem to revolve around family more than school. Going to church was always magical at this time of year. I remember awaiting the placement of baby Jesus in the Navity scene. I was always pleased to see the baby with his parents.To me the holiday was downplayed as a gift giving day and promoted as Jesus' day not ours.
It is, after all, the way it should be today.
Make the most of the day by wishing everyone you meet a Merry Christmas and not a Happy Holiday.

To all my bumps on a log and brazen articles, My husband Dan and I would like to wish you all a very Blessed Christmas and a Happy and Holy and Healthy New Year.

Pass Out!

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Frank Dann
12/22/2010 1:24pm

It DOES rain in Southern California! Five days of "ark-type" downpours here.

For Christmas, those of us on the "other side" (Sunnyside) went to the St. Teresa chapel, known as Queens of Angels. The decorations there were over the top and must have consumed a big budget chunk. I remember mid-night Mass and the excitement of Christmas. Being an alter boy there added to the festive feeling. When we had snow, it was great, but who can forget those wet shoes caused by inevitable New York slush?

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Kathy Matthews Klein
12/22/2010 4:36pm

Hi "kids" - Checking in for any new STS messages. Home now to bake, wrap, clean for family Christmas Eve. Little ones wanted me to come to them. They did not want traffic to delay them; Santa HAS to see us sleeping "like good kids" in their beds. Ha

Holidays/Woodside - Always wanted Baby Jesus to be put in the stable EARLY & not have to WAIT until Christmas. The green wreaths/red bows looked great in church but too many pointsettas. Loved Christmas carols/ hymns sung by choir.

Our house had a large white shadow box frame that lit a stained glass painting of Madonna & Child each year (Never understood why St.Joseph was left out) Trees we bought @ Dans Fruit/Veg store on 48 Ave. Money was tight; we'd wait til 2 nights before so prices went down a bit. Lots of windows in the Celtics were lit up; was fun to look out my window & see them. Marie Scimone had a lit picture hung on the porch of the "3 Wise Guys". Loved it! New Years Eve all my neighbors went on the porches/steps banging pots & pans at midnight.

Times were simple. Got 1 or 2 toys & clothes; new PJs the pm before 4 Santa. Found a new book @ foot of my bed each yr. Kept that up with my kids. Kept them in bed a little bit longer before rushing to the tree.

Wishing You/Yours a joyous Christmas & a Healthy & Happy 2011! Tiny Tim said it well... "God Bless Us Everyone!"
Here's hoping our paths cross once again (individually or as a group)so we can pick up where we left off in April (Thank you Bill Ryan "et al" for a fun night & wonderful memories). Luv Kathy

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Bill Ryan
12/22/2010 7:47pm

Thought I'd give all you bumps an update on the activity connected with this website: So far, in the month of Dec., the day with the highest number of "hits" was Dec. 8, with 93 individuals visiting the site. Second highest was Dec. 14 with 64 visitors, followed closely by Dec. 11 with 62 visitors. I assume most of those "hits" involve people looking to see if there are any new messages on the blog. Up to this point today (it's now 7:45 pm) (Dec.22) there was an average number of hits - 42 "unique visitors" and 59 "page views", so far. (That means 42 different people checked the site and 17 of them came back a second time (or something close to that.) I guess all things considered, today was a better than average day, with two people actually posting messages - Frank Dann and Kathy Matthews. Thank you, Frank & Kathy. I was hoping I could stop having to "approve" postings on here but, darn it, yesterday was the first time in about 3 months that our Nike shoe buddy in China posted one of his inane comments. If he's trying to sell Nikes to us, I think he's on the "wrong track" (yes, pun intended).
Keep the posts coming, all you brazen articles. Have an enjoyable Christmas, and stay the hell away from the eggnog bowl. At our age, we don't need that stuff! LOL

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Noel [Skip] Sawyer
12/23/2010 7:16am

To all the classmates we know in all grades my wife and family wish you all a very Merry Christmas and a Successful New Years. I celebrate my birthday on Christmas eve with the family then to church. Sorry to say that I jumped ship and now go to a church in our town. I have found that the churches in the country teach more of the Bible. Well let us get away from Churches and pray for all of us.
A short moment of silence for the friends that we have lost. And our love ones that have gone to a better place.
Thank you Bill and Tim for a job well done, keep up the good work, we all owe you.
Skip...............................

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Charlie D
12/23/2010 3:54pm

Merry Christmas to all & a Happy & Blessed New Year also. California daughter & Husband are here since late Tuesday while the N. Carolina daughter along with Husband & grandsons should be pulling up in their car any moment. A nice gift to have everyone home & together especially during this most wonderful time of the year. As Skip said, a thought for all those who are no longer with us and also some prayers for those serving and protecting in far away places.

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kathy matthews klein
12/31/2010 1:52pm

Wishing each of you a very Happy 2011 ahead! Hope everyone affected is dug out from the blizzard last week!

Hanging in @ home in good company to watch The Ball drop tonight? Enjoy yourself & don't doze off @ 11:30 as I did last year in spite of fun company, and great refreshments! If you're going out to ring in 2011 have a safe & fun evening & not TOO much of a headache tomorrow am!

The year had ups & downs for many of us but even if we have to think hard about it, we can probably find a LOT to be thankful for!

I've learned thru the yrs.( & still have difficulty 'cause it's just NOT easy) to not be saddened by memories of the most wonderful times we had with those we loved the most that have now passed us by. Instead I do my best to cherish those memories and share them with friends & family, keeping them alive in my heart forever!

One more sincere thank you to Bill Ryan et al for the amazing feat in 2010 of getting many bumps on the logs & brazen articles together in April @ K of C.

May the Peace and Blessings of this Christmas Season (Remember the 3 Wise Guys haven't got to the manger yet) remain in each of us and our families through the coming year. May 2011 be a year full of Health, Joy & Prosperity for all! And in the words of one famous little child... God bless us all, every one! Love Kathy

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Bill Ryan
01/01/2011 11:06am

A Happy New Year to all who visit this website. Thought I'd give you the "stats" for the number of hits we received during the month of December (2010):

lowest # of hits: Dec. 25, with 14 hits
highest " " : Dec. 8, with 93 hits

average daily # of hits for the month: 42

# of individuals who posted a message on this blog (for the month): 11

There seems to be a disconnect between the number of people who visited the site (and I presume most of them also checked the blog once they were in the site), and the number of individuals who actually posted a message on here. Maybe those 11 people are the true "brazen articles". Everybody else, it would seem to me, fits better under the heading of "Bumps on a Log". LOL

Anyway, wishing you all the best in the coming year. I expect to hear from John Kaufmann soon about the STS61 reunion. I'll send out an email to everyone with the details. I'm probably going to go to their reunion. It's tentatively scheduled for late Sept - early Oct. However, this time, I'd like to go just as a regular "bump on a log", not the "brazen article" in charge of the show.

The STS61 reunion would provide a good opportunity for members of our class who would like to get together again.

Pass out!

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Pam LoCastro McPhail
01/01/2011 1:54pm

Happy New Year to all my "new" friends.
Let's all hope for a good year filled with fun, health, wealth and goodness.

I hung out in Sunnyside after graduation from STS and one of my favorite memories is hanging out under the "el" and singing doo wop. I have many CD's now (oops, almost called them albums) and listening them brings back another surge of memories. I remember less and less now, fact in fact out takes effect. Please keep your memories posted for us to see, it help sparks my mind into activity.
"Pass Out"

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Maureen Murphy Carlson
01/02/2011 2:15am

In this New Year may we all be well, at peace, and able to be thankful for the many blessings that make our lives meaningful.

Take care. Enjoy each day.

Happy New Year, Everyone!

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Frank Dann
01/03/2011 1:30pm

During this unusually cold and wet (global WARMING?) California winter, I recall a summer's trip to Coney Island with STS chums right after graduation. (We had a ton of fun, but I can't recall exactly who went.) I remember that day's weather, however, as a beautiful and warm summer day.

By age 13 we all knew the subways well then, but who would let their young kids travel long distances these days on NYC trains? Ahhh, times were better then.

These memories keep me toasty during today's 40 degree temp. (Hey, I'm spoiled, I know.)

Happy New Year!

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Cathy M
01/03/2011 6:52pm

Frank: It was Richie Henneghan, Diane Lawrence, you, Theo, Jospehine De Luise, me and I can't remember who else. You, Diane, Richie & I were the die hards and stayed the longest. We met at the train station, first Bliss Street & then Lowry and changed at Queendboro Plaza for the Coney Island line. I remember having a great time and you convinced me to go on the Cyclone!!!! Last time I was ever on a roller coaster until I was in my 40's!

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Frank Dann
01/06/2011 1:26pm

Thanks, Cathy! That summer jaunt seems like yesterday to me--- a really fun trip for all of us.

Bill, does it still remain impossible to find Theodosia?

Now, I, myself, am more afraid of roller-coasters, LOL.

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Bill Ryan
01/06/2011 8:13pm

Frank,

As for Theo, the best I could come up with on her is that she voted in person at the time of the Presidential Election in 2008 at a polling place in N. Carolina. That's a definite fact. Her DOB matched. Catherine Woods remembered that Theo's b'day is Sept. 24. After finding what seemed to be a recent address, I mailed her two letters and Catherine mailed her at least one. None was ever returned by the post office. Needless to say, she never bothered to reply. I just don't think she was interested. As they say, "you'll have this."

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Erma
01/07/2011 8:23pm

Well, I wanted to jump on the bandwagon and wish everyone a belated Merry Christmas and a most happy and healthy New Year (prosperous would be nice, too). I was down in Orlando with my grandkids from December 9 - 18 (and it was literally freezing 3 of those days), home for three days and then down to Virginia for Christmas. The upside is that I missed the blizzard. I did go out today and shovel 4" off my driveway and walkway.

I hope everyone "out there" has a wonderful year!

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Dan Gavin
01/12/2011 9:34pm

A little late.....

A HAPPY & HEALTHY NEW YEAR TO ALL

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bob carnesi
01/13/2011 12:53pm

Hello world,

Even much later than my old friend, Danny Gavinn, I would like to offer my best wishes for a new year filled with great health, much love and only good experiences awaiting. I am so grateful for the reconnections that have been made to those special people with whom I began this journey, as well as some other great ones I have met along the way. God bless you all.

Bob Carnesi

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Frank Dann
01/14/2011 4:11pm

Hi Bill and cums,

Remember the telephone exchanges? We visited this once before, a while ago,
but I was wondering whatever happened to "RAvenswood" and "STillwell." Any thoughts. Remember calling in the operator for "long distance"? (Philadpehia!) wow......am I old???

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Bill Ryan
01/14/2011 8:18pm

Hi, Frank,
I think the phone company stopped using words like STILLWELL and RAVENSWOOD in telephone exchanges back in the 60s. I know when my family got its first phone in 1954, the word "EXETER" was printed on that little paper disc in the middle of the rotary dial. But, when we moved out to near Jackson Heights in 1967, they were still using those little paper discs in the middle of the dial, but this time, it showed our exchange in all numbers (651). However, I think a number of businesses in the old neighborhood still to this day use STILLWELL, RAVENSWOOD, EXETER, EMPIRE, etc., since, in all likelihood, it's easier for customers to remember, e.g., ST-6-5920 rather than 786-5920. Maybe not?
I think having to go through the Long Distance operator ceased to be the case by the early 60s. And, since we're on the topic of telephones, remember when all of NYC had just one Area Code (212)? 718 was introduced around 1984. Now, there are at least two others (646 and 347 - I think that's what they are). I heard the FCC is planning on introducing even another area code for NYC. Considering that probably 90% of the teenagers in NYC (not to mention their parents) have their own cell phone numbers, it's little wonder that there's a need for a new area code.
Finally, yesterday (Jan 13) was a particularly busy day on here. We had something close to 70 individual hits. As per usual, though, very few contributions to the blog.
Whoa! Wait a minute! Help me out here. As I was typing this, (about phones), I had this flash back re: STS. Was there some kind of antique-looking telephone system in the building, where there was a very old-fashioned looking telephone (the earpiece was on an uncoiled cord, but the speakerpiece was connected to the "box" on the wall), and there was a bunch of buttons on the box, with, I presume, a button for every classroom, plus a button for connecting with the Principal's Office. Now, c'mon folks! Don't leave me hanging on this one. Help me out. Tell me I'm not crazy! Does anybody have any recollection of such a telephone system in the building (at STS)? I can see those phones very clearly in my mind. Surely, I couldn't have just dreamed them up without some basis in reality. Or, maybe this is how the end starts? LOL
What do you think? Chime in, you bumps on a log.

Pass out!

Bill

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Bill Ryan
01/14/2011 8:27pm

I forgot to say that, if these phones in the school did, indeed, exist, they were located in the "cloakroom". I don't ever remember seeing any teacher talking on them. They were so old looking, I doubt they even worked. But, unless I'm really starting to "wig out" here, I'm 99% certain that those phones were in the building. Does anybody other than me have such a memory of these Alexander Graham Bell-vintage phones?

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Cathy M
01/15/2011 4:08pm

I remember the exchanges very well. In fact, my best friend lives in Sunnyside and when I call her, I can only dial ST 6. I remember a party line when I was really little, probably around 5, then we had a "private" line. The telephones were black and very, very heavy, so were the ear pieces and there was no flexible cord! They have become "retro" now and are very popular. We didn't have to dial 1 before an area code. We got a wall phone around 1958-1959, it was the newest thing and then the princess phones and you could have an extension with a phone in more than one room. When you called information, you actually got a person on the phone who was able to give you the correct number! We had public phones that cost a nickel to use! Sorry, Bill, you paid more attention than I when in the cloakroom! I have no recollection of the phones at STS. Frank, we are old! All our news now is on TV or the internet and journalism no longer exists! We had the Daily News, Daily Mirror, Long Island Press, Journal American, Herald Tribune besides NY Times and Wall Street Journal and there was more than one edition! No longer! Speaking of phones, if the younger generation was faced with a rotary dial phone, they wouldn't be able to use it!

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Charlie D
01/16/2011 8:53am

Hello Bill & all, I remember my number being ST but later was EM (empire). Sorry, but cannot recall the phone thingy in the cloakroom that Bill mentioned. Spending some time in Greensboro, NC and it is colder than the norm. Had 1 to 3 inches of snow last Monday. Schools were closed Monday till Friday. Not like NY in that respect. Was hoping to get in some golf but not at the temps we are having now. Looking ahead to some days in the hi 40's & maybe play a bit. Till next time....

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Bill Ryan
01/16/2011 1:37pm

Thanks, Charlie and Cathy, for that input on the "phantom" phone system at STS. Somewhere, and obviously I can't remember where it was, there was some kind of archaic-looking intercom system with a hand-held speaker (mouthpiece), and little buttons for the various rooms that could be called in whatever building that might have been. Charlie, you don't suppose it might have been at Loughlin, do you? I don't think so. It's kind of spooky to have such a clear memory of something, but then to find out that it may not have even existed. I'm quite sure it existed, but where? -- beats me. "A mind (or whatever's left of it) is a terrible thing to waste" - LOL
Cathy, you were saying how heavy the old Ma Bell phones were. You bet! Those were the days! Most of the phones they sell in the store these days are such lightweights, they're pretty much guaranteed to fall off the table when you go to answer the phone. I have a "desk model" right next to the computer here, and I always have to hold the base (so it doesn't fall off the computer desk) when I go to pick up "the receiver" to make a call or answer one. The old Ma Bell phones really were "bumps on a log" - so to speak - you'd really have to yank them hard to make them fall off the table.
And, finally, Cathy, you listed a bunch of newspaper that we grew up with in NYC. Does anyone remember the "Woodside Herald"? I think it was a freebie paper that they used to put near the checkout in the various supermarkets around Woodside. It was, if I remember correctly, mainly for classified ads and maybe one or two neighborhood-related news stories.

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Pasm McPhail
01/16/2011 1:40pm

My phone number was EX exchange but we did have a RA number when we lived in Astoria prior to moving so far away to Woodside.
Yes, Cathy, the younger generation doesn't know how to use a rotary phone. When I lived in Jersey we had a wooden rotary wall phone made from oak. It had been a gift to me from my husband. We didn't want to change it so we continued to use rotary service until we moved from there in 2007! The kid next door came home from school (his mom worked and I was his emergency) and couldn't get in his house. He came to me and I told him to call his mom because she would worry about him. He went to reach for the phone and jumped back as if he had seem a monster. "What's that?" he yell. I laughingly told him it was a rotary phone and tried to show him how to use it, but he was afraid. I called his mom and later over coffee she told me that her son said we must be very, very old to have such an old phone!
No Bill, I don't remember phones at school and I don't remember any teachers ever using them. Sorry
Pretty cold here today and headed to 0-4 tonight. BBBBRRRRR

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Cathy M
01/17/2011 7:48am

Bill, Woodside Herald still publishing! Originally by Joe Sabba and now by his son Buster. It has all the local news of Woodside which is funny because most of the news is about Sunnyside!

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Bill Ryan
01/17/2011 3:28pm

I'm starting to think that that intercom phone system that, a few days ago, I could have sworn was part of the scenery in STS, is merely a "figment of my imagination". Somewhere, sometime, I did work in a building (or maybe went to school in a building) that had such an intercom system, but, since nobody can remember such a set-up, I doubt it existed in STS. Plus, when we did the tour of the school the day of our reunion last April, I'm sure I would have noticed such a phone system, if it were still there. No big deal - it's just strange how sharply that memory came back to me the other day.
Go Jets! (although I have to admit that I am "conflicted", being a resident of Pennsylvania, with the Steelers also in the play-offs). Is anybody else out there "conflicted", between a NY team and a team from the area you now live in?
Pass out!

Bill

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Pam McPhail
01/17/2011 4:42pm

no conflict - GO GIANTS (next year)

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Frank Dann
01/18/2011 12:00pm

Those STS phone devices were there all right. I, too, remember them.

But they were intended to be used as an intercom system, not as real phones. They connected to the Principal's Office.

Ancient even in the 1950's, they were never used while we were at STS. The speaker itself was a black, heavy, plasic, cone-shaped device made of the same type of substance found in those old "breakable" "records."

The listening part was attached by a black cord---straight--to a wooden, flat backboard. These things were found in the "cloak rooms." :) :) I was always amazed by them somehow.

One, however, was in the hall----just one. I forgot where or why.

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Bill Ryan
01/18/2011 4:31pm

Thanks, Frank. When I got that "flashback" the other day about those intercom thing-a-ma-jigs in STS, the imagery came back to me so clearly, I thought 'no way I could have cooked this up out of thin air'.
Does anybody (besides me) remember when they made us take hearing tests in the "library", up on the 3rd floor (southwest corner of the bldg, directly above the principal's office)? We were in the upper grades - 7th, I think. The equipment they used looked like it came straight from Alexander Graham Bell's workshop ("Mr. Watson, come here. I want you.") But, besides being amazed at the antiquity of the hearing testing machine, I kept looking at the books that were in the library. They looked even older than the hearing equipment. I remember there was a globe on a stand, and there was what looked like a Persian carpet on the floor. Such luxury! The other very under-utilized room in that bldg was the Music Room, also up on the 3rd floor, but at the northwest corner. The only time(s) I was ever in there was during the period when Mr. LoMedica was getting us (the choir) ready to record the Christmas album. We had a.m. and p.m. practice, and since the 7:00 and 8:00 a.m. Masses were taking place in the church, we had to practice in some other place. So, why not the Music Room? I remember it was freezing in there - no heat. And then, at 8:00 a.m., when the Angelus bell would ring, you'd swear the ceiling was going to come crashing down.
At any rate, thanks, Frank, for that "memory reinforcement".
I'm holding off on starting a new chapter for the blog. I think John Kaufman is going to announce a definite date for the 61 reunion pretty soon. When he does, I'll start a new blog chapter. (Unless, of course, all you bumps out there starting blogging all of a sudden - yeah, like that would happen!!! LOL)

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Johnnie
01/19/2011 11:46pm

Hi everybody.

I'm very late in finding this website but I'm glad I did. So many nice stories, so many great photos. You guys must have been the teenagers all over creation when I grew up there. I started life in Jan. 1958 across the street from the Mets on 46th St. right up the street from Ida's deli, Gus's barbershop and Harry's candy store going the direction of where St. Teresa's is. Sort of in the middle of the block. We had a two family apartment with my German (Austrian) speaking grandparents downstairs and we upstairs. My mother was an Irish girl from the Bronx, family name of Butler so she felt very much at home in the neighborhood. I started St. Teresa's in 1963 and went to first and second grade there. Then we moved to East Setauket LI in the summer of 65 so I don't really remember as much as you people do unfortunately. I do remember my first grade nun Sr. Marilyn and how I wanted to represent Holland at the Christmas show at the school. I wanted to wear wooden shoes lol. She made me be France and I had to practise saying "Joyeux Noel!" in front of the audience. I also remember her catching me and my buddy flying paper airplanes in class on a Friday and she very sweetly said, Johnnie, do you like making paper airplanes with your friend? I'm sure I replied yes, Sister, I do. "Well bring 100 of them EACH of you tomorrow to the convent!" To this day I can recall I, my parents, my grandparents, my 3 year old sister, and any neighbor who wanted to help making 100 paper planes. The next day, Saturday, I show up with grocery bags of them with my mother, and was mortified to see my friend come alone with his 100 without his mother. I was thinking, oh you're good. At least your Mom will not see your humiliation in front of the Sisters. My mother later said she bet the nuns played with them all day. I also got wacked on the hands with a ruler (I had to do it myself) or on the behind by the nun herself. In second grade in 1964, I was going home for lunchtime and I and an Italian buddy stopped off at the church for God knows what reason. My nun then was Sr. Annette Marie. In front of the candles my friend said we're not allowed to light them. We're too young and we haven't made our First Holy Communion yet. I said , I know that. He pretended anyway to light one, he didn't though, and the next day I'm brought before my principle Sr. Dorothy who wanted to know why I was lighting candles in the church! Who was spying on us and even saw we never really lighted any??!! But still I was accused lol! I got my Communion from Fr. Morrow btw. The most scary part that I can remember there was the sirens when we had to leave class pronto, go into the hallway, crouch down on the floor, I had to take my blue jacket off and put it onto the head of the nearest girl, and wait for the Russian bombs to fall splintering the glass windows. Or perhaps killing us all outright. Scary times!! I seem to remember that the girl's uniforms were brown. Can that be? Well if any of you "teenagers" passed by on 46th street in the years between 1960 and 1965 and saw kids pulling themselves on red wagons, you surely must have seen me. Thanks so much for a good read. Really. You all had me transported back in time and I loved it. If ever one of you remembered a fenced in yard with gorgeous roses in the front garden, across the street from the Mets, that was my grandmother's. People always tried to reach in and pick them lol. I'm happy you had such a great reunion and God bless you all.

Johnnie

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John J Kaufmann
01/20/2011 9:36am

Bill...We, STS61, have set a date for our reunion. October 1, 2011 at the Kof C. I have adjusted the website to reflect the date, time and cost. As you stated in an earlier blog...our reunion is open to you and your classmates. In closing, Bill as I have said many times THANK YOU for your assistance.

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Bill Ryan
01/20/2011 9:53am

Hi, Johnnie. Thanks for posting that interesting message. So, they were doing atom bomb air raid drills even into the mid-60s? I wonder how long that went on.
I had a similar incident to your paper-plane caper. In 8th grade, a kid in my class, George Lis (RIP) knew how to make a cube or box out of a sheet of loose-leaf paper. He taught me how. One day, when I was making one in class, the teacher, Sr. Ann Eileen, saw me making a paper cube and told me to bring in 100 of them the next day. Now, my mother was usually extremely supportive of anything the nuns said or did, but, on that occasion, even my mother made very little effort to hide her displeasure at the decision Ann Eileen made, to have me go home and make 100 paper cubes. I don't think she saw the "educational value" of the exercise. LOL
When we were in STS (1952-1960), the uniforms were blue, but, based on what I've seen in various pics from classes after us, I think they changed the uniform color to brown.
I also had to chuckle about how you said you were (my word) "busted" for lighting a candle in church. Jeez, if that's the only problem that principal had with a school full of kids, that one of them tried to light a candle in church, she certainly had no clue how easy she had it.
Finally, yesterday, we had an extremely high number of people check in on this website. We had 95 hits. Yet, out of the 95 hits, no postings. (Johnnie's posting came in today, Jan. 20). Such "Bumps"!!! (LOL)

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Bill Ryan
01/20/2011 10:00am

John Kaufmann has fixed a date for the STS61 reunion. I said a few postings ago that as soon as I found out that info, I'd start a new chapter on this blog.
So, for all new postings, go to Chapter 11. (I'll put the info about the STS61 reunion in the first posting of Chapter 11).

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